The New Testament just fell from the sky.

Protestants might have the impression that the bible just came to be as if it fell from the sky, in the KJV no less.  At the time the New Testament canon was being decided there were approximately 45 gospels and over 400 writings contending in some manner for inclusion as canonical scripture.  It was not until 362 AD that St. Athanasius, a leading Church Father, provided a list of books which matches our list of canonical books of the NT.  The Church beginning in 382 AD under the instruction of the pope held a series of councils culminating with the Council of Carthage in 397 AD which finalized the canon of the NT.  In the end the only books which made it into the canon of scripture where those considered canonical by the Western Church in the city of Rome.  Once the pope ratified the council findings the NT canon was accepted by the Church as a whole. 
The only reason we have a bible today is because the Catholic Church said so.  There were no protestants at these councils none at all.  If there were, I invite you to list the names of these Protestants.   The Catholic Church did not need the assistance of any Protestants in figuring out the bible; there were no protestants around and history would have to wait for over a millennia for the first protestants to show their face upon this earth.  If no bible was available and given the 45 gospels and over 400 epistles and the like to the protestant reformers of the 16th century would be anyone’s guess what they would have come up with.  We certainly know that Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelations would not have made it into the NT scripture.
The Fathers of the Church are important because they, in their writings, are a witness to us as to what the apostles taught to them when they preached the faith throughout the known world.  It is this faith which the Farther of the Church record in their writings and admonish those considered heterodox.  The Fathers of the Church provide a record of the Church of their time of its beliefs, practices and traditions and how the apostles and the Early Church interpreted scripture.  It is their writings and theological insights which have guided and shaped the Church’s doctrines and dogmas.  The Fathers of the church illustrate to us the organic nature of the development and clarification of doctrine and dogma within the History of the Church which they have shaped.
 Christ never asked the apostles to write a book and distribute it but rather preach the Faith as taught to them.  Books require an external source of interpretation, no book interprets itself.  If Christ gave us a bible, he should have given us an authority to interpret the Bible.  He certainly did so with the Jews of the Old Testament, why would he have not done so for Christians of the New Testament?  Did he say read it and go and created 40,000 denominations/sects/cults for yourselves?  No, he prayed that they all be one.  Christ established one Church, and only one Church. 
 Look at the legal history of the United States and the interpretation of the United States Constitution.  Originalism in interpretation of the Constitution means that we look at the original intent and meaning of the text of the constitution, as understood by the Founding Fathers as provided in their writings.  This is exactly what the Catholic Church seeks to do in the same manner.  The courts (certainly the highest of these –SCOTUS) provides a living voice and a framework which arbitrates and adjudicates contentions in accordance to the constitution and the laws.   This is again no different from why the Catholic Church exists as an institution.  Without the Judiciary there would be anarchy, and likewise so, without a Church which speaks with authority.  This anarchy is evident in Protestantism which has given us 40,000 denominations/sects/cults.  The gate is certainly wide which leads to destruction; 40,000 denominations/cults and sects wide.  
Where does the idea of the Trinity come from?  Certainly it is biblical.  But the word nor the conceptual form exists in the scripture.  How about Original Sin?  These are traditions – the teachings of the Church Fathers which lent assistance to the development of these doctrines.  Without the Church Fathers, we would not have the concept of the Trinity nor of Original Sin.

The R. Zell – Tim Spangler Debate.

Here are the questions that Tim Spangler, a lucker found on many Fr. John Hollowells video comment threads has challenged me on.

Tim Spangler challenges me to to show him Catholicism in the following verses.

I will number these so Tim can follow along.

Here is Tim Spanglers Challenge:

How about YOU Zell? Care to go down the list with me to see if this is referring to CATHOLICISM?

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The Protestant – Catholic divide – The Narrow and the Wide Gates


Jesus says:  Matthew: 7:13-14

 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road is easy that leads to destruction, and there are many who take it. 14 For the gate is narrow and the road is hard that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”

The gate is indeed wide.  In fact this gate is so wide, it can be said to be 45,000 Protestant denominations wide.     That is an outstanding number.  Again:  The gate is wide indeed.  And this just begs the question of just how many versions of the Truth there are?

And the Narrow Gate is one Church wide – THE CATHOLIC CHRUCH. 

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Catholic Rejection of the Holy Eucharist


According to the Gospel of Luke, the first person in history to say “Yes” to the Body of Christ, is the Virgin Mary during the Annunciation.

This was her “Fait” her “Yes” her “Amen.”

In the Catholic Church, at the Mass, we also go up to receive the Holy Eucharist.  The Catholic Priest asks each of us, “Body of Christ” and our response is “Amen.”  Amen confirming we believe the very words of Jesus Christ, that the Holy Eucharist is indeed exactly what Jesus said the Blessed Bread and Blessed Blood are:

His Body & His Blood.”

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Protestantism is found in the New Testament

I recently debated one of the most ignorant people I’ve ever encountered.  His first name is Kevin, a well known blogger.  He told me that “THE FIRST CHRISTIANS WERE PROTESTANTS.”  Well, I thought about how to respond to this stupid remark and then it hit me like a lighening bolt.  He was right.  I went straight into my bible to find the exact place where the FIRST PROTESTANTS are found.

They are found in the Bread of Life Discourse.  Here at the conclusion of the Bread of Life Discourse, Jesus’ disciples were already grumbling among themselves and then they no longer walked with Jesus.

We read about them in JOHN 6:66 –

66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

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The Roman Catholic Church in the New Testament

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The question is: can I trace the Catholic Church back to Jesus and the New Testament.  My answer is an unequivocal YES.

The New Testament is the living witness to the Mystical Body of Christ, His Bride, the Church from it’s beginnings.  The Early Church Fathers are the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th century witnesses to the growing church.  The New Testament is complete.  The living witness, the New Testament, has within it’s pages, letters left by the Apostles to individual churches as well as to the Church at large. Continue reading